Anonymous said: Why Feminist Seungho when he's posted racist things before?

Dani, the old admin of Feminoonas, was a Seungho fan who must have been under the impression that he didn’t do problematic things, or else the problematic things he has done have been recent. Her and a few other Seungho fans decided to kind of make him an icon, which I don’t exactly agree with even if he didn’t do anything problematic yet because Feminism isn’t some “I haven’t fucked up yet” or “Neutral” position, it should only be bestowed on an idol who has openly said feminist things and isn’t an asshat. I, however, had nothing to do with it nor do I cosign it.


I keep on wanting to do something with this blog to re-haul the bullshit and try to actual do something conducive and not overstepping with it, but I feel like, given the name and it’s history and the way it has been recently inactive and the fact that I have no time to moderate another social networking website with the dedication it deserves, it would be best instead to shut it down.

I did not create nor moderate this blog for most of its existence. I came in as a non-Korean WOC fan of Kpop who wanted to be critical of Western racism and orientalism in the fandom and open a discourse about healthy intercultural exchanges that are NOT rife with colorist, racist, tokenizing, anti-Black nonsense, which is unfortunately so common in this fandom. However, this blog, with the symbol and the name and the fact that it was started by a white woman (who was cool about intersectional feminism in fandom but decided to drop off the face of the planet after greatly disrespecting a WOC on this blog, since the accountability process is cool for everyone but herself, which is an unfortunate thing that happens very often with white people in the kpop fandom) is instead a potential hot bed of coming from an entitled place of knowledge about Korean culture and Korean women and Korean feminism, which is not at all what this is about, nor what I ever came here trying to pose as. This isn’t Simon and Martina, this isn’t some cheap Western people “Oh u Azns are SO stupid lol lettuce tell u how to be TRULY empowered in yr pop music”, as a WOC I know that kind of shit is supremacist as fuck and I do not want to engage it, or seem like I am about to.

I am sorry this blog stayed so inactive for so long with no explanation. For now, the blog will stay up, but count it as good as dead, unless I come and specify otherwise. I might, with permission from the bloggers, direct ya’ll to some folks that do this kind of thing and talk about intersectional politics and Asian/Korean culture/Kpop, though I don’t know how much of that I can offer since I am hesitant to direct people to my politically-minded Korean friends since none of them give any shitty fuck about Kpop and it’d be super gross to just have a bunch of fans flooding their inboxes and asking them inane questions about things they have no clue about. However, there are cool Western feminist fans who are pretty legit at checking themselves and trying to keep an open discourse on these subjects, and many of whom which can talk about certain kpop related subjects from a personal point of view (like Kpop and anti-Blackness/fetishizing/tokenizing)

Regardless, thank you for your support throughout the uncertainty and silence, I do appreciate it! Ya’ll have been super cool! <3

Admin Briana

Anonymous said: I don't want to be the asshole but here it goes; I was expecting this to be about Korean feminism, and this blog to be run by Korean feminists. Not it to be feminism in kpop. Sorry.

No, it is fine, and you are right. This blog needs a re-haul so people know it is about non-Korean Western fans addressing the fandom and attempting to sensitively navigate cultural issues. We do not speak for Korean women or Korean feminist issues.

Anonymous said: Hi! You don't have to answer this *question* (it's not really a question); I just wanted to make a comment about your post about eatyourkimchi. You said that their videos contain racist, classist, slut-shaming content. Yes, I admit, I enjoy watching S&M's videos (please keep reading!); from what I've seen, they've made massive efforts to not be racist, with disclaimers and what not after lots of their sentences. Even if you don't think they succeeded, shouldn't the fact that they don't want to

be racist be taken into consideration? The slut shaming: this issue is very very complicated; while you may have your view of what is right and wrong, and think it is obvious/easy to see the logic behind it, others (like myself) still have a hard time with it. On one hand, I think women should be able to be/act/dress as sexy as they want; the double standard is ridiculous. On the other hand, I feel that there must be some line between sexy and indecent. My opinion on this isn’t decided,

 and it probably never will be. My point is, I don’t think it’s fair to hate on S&M for “slut-shaming”; it’s a thorny topic on which people have strong opinions, and misunderstanding happen easily. Lastly (wait. This is your second point. Sorry! argh. but anyways) you said they are classist. Um. I guess I’m not really sure what you mean by this, and of course you don’t have to explain to me if you don’t have time, but I’ve never seen them say anything about their social status or wealth.So, sorry for the super long *ask*, but thank you for taking the time to read it! I hope you have a wonderful day/night :D

Sorry, my criticisms sticks. Reread what I wrote to see how I feel about “there’s a difference between sexy and indecent” (surprise-there isn’t, that’s merely your opinion, making such a distinction is slut shaming and dangerous and entitled. No one cares what your opinion on indecent is, keep it to yourself and your body.) They perpetuate and say shitty nonsense with no thought to the consequence or care for the harm. They’re selfish, greedy, and exploitative. They’re ignorant and obnoxious. Seriously, their shit isn’t that great, they’ve just sort of got a monopoly on feeding biased nonsense to a (often equally ignorant and orientalist) young and impressionable audience and access to good filming material and time that others of us instead spend on work and school.

Intent does not matter. Intent does not change the harm done. Also, given that they’ve been faced and challenged and called out many times for their ignorance, hell, they responded to what I wrote, and still ignored the criticisms and still went about their way, shows that their intent is especially for shit.

It really isn’t complicated at all in the end.

Admin Briana

Empowering K-pop Songs List

Not misandrist or feminist, but a lot of good empowering K-pop songs. 

Send em’ in and the list will keep growing! Most of these have English subs.

Step - KARA  
Pretty Girl - KARA 
Himnae - SNSD   
Girls Girls - Wonder Girls 
Party (xoxo) - GLAM (thanks leorizanzel)
I Am The Best - 2ne1 (thanks reeminiscing)
Bad Girl Good Girl - Miss A (thanks reeminiscing

Anonymous said: Any other “Empowering Pop Anthems” you could list for us? =D

Haha I knew I was going to get this question. I’ve really got to compile a comprehensive list, I just have random tracks I’m always bumpin’ that make me feel like a queen! Me and my circle of kpop friends were talking about this on Twitter and we came up with some “Misandrist Kpop” tracks & videos. I’ll see if I can’t make post a tracklist later today or have a video spam! Feel free to send suggestions, ya’ll!

Admin: Briana

Miss A’s latest track, “I Don’t Need A Man”. Definitely adding this one to my “Empowering Pop Anthems” playlist.

Anonymous said: Hey, I love your blog! It's a nice escape from the mass amounts of slut-shaming and internalized misogyny in the k-pop fandom :) I was wondering what your thoughts are on Miss A's "I Don't Need A Man", since it's definitely more outwardly feminist than many songs/videos in the k-pop industry.

Thanks a lot, we appreciate the kind words!

Oh, I absolutely love it. I’ve been waiting for the video to come out and I’ve been jamming to it for the past few hours! I adore the styling (the imagery with the shoes/purses/clothes/GENERAL HARD FEMME OPULENCE made me so happy and drove me to look for a crown on Etsy. Oh kpop, stop encouraging my materialistic side!) the song, the lyrics, the message it all rules! It really speaks to my life, especially, over the past few months, since my mantra has been “I PAY MY BILLS, I RUN MY LIFE, TRY AND STEP TO ME, BOYS!” XD. Definitely my latest HBIC anthem!

-Admin Briana

Anonymous said: Hi Feminoonas! I'm just gonna start off saying I love this blog deeply. Secondly, while I agree with everything you say about slut-shaming and the whole fan-debacle surrounding Hyuna, I still have a problem with her image. Not because I think she's a slut, but because the suggestiveness is a concept created FOR her (not BY her) by a group of men from Cube, for the purposes of drawing in attention from (predominantly male) fans. She owns it, but it still bothers me. Am I wrong in this viewpoint?

Hello, admin Briana over here (I know, shocking!) and funny enough, like freakishly coincidental almost, I just kind of wrote about this today on my personal blog? Link here and here.

I agree with you, but there’s more to it than that. Essentially, the thing is that while it is very valid to be wary and critical of the male gaze, critical of patriarchal norms and dictates, of negative, misogynist, and unrealistic displays of sexuality, and the the media sells women and people consume them, that does not mean we should come at women and tell them they must be “brainwashed” or “exploited” or “adhering to the patriarchy” for the way they express themselves. Yes, I know that Hyuna’s image is largely controlled and dictated by men and is made for male consumption, but I still support her and support  the freedom for women to express themselves how they see fit, and don’t assuming that any woman who is being overtly sexual or raunchy or merely expressing themselves in a way I wouldn’t is automatically doing it for men.

Anonymous said: Hey I noticed you posted something about cultural appropration recently and I have an honest question. Recently i have started driving with my windows down more often and I decided to wrap my hair in a scarf. I was going for more of a 60s look but a friend of mine said that I looked very arabic in it. Its a purple translucent scarf with gold stitching and I got it at a thrift store years ago. I am being culturally insensitive by wearing it?

Personally, I wouldn’t take it as such. There are plenty of other cultures who have women wrap their hair to keep it in check (I’m thinking of Italian, Greek, Portugese, Polish, Baltic women), wrapping the head in a scarf is not a specifically Arabic thing. I think if it’s for practical reasons, which your reasoning seems to be, then it’s perfectly fine. Sometimes when it rains and I forget my umbrella I’ll wrap my hair in my scarf so it doesn’t get wet and gross. This isn’t me trying to appropriate any culture, but rather a matter of practicality. However, if you were wrapping your head in the fashion of a hijab for fashionable reasons (e.g. you think it looks cool), then it’d be problematic. 

Hope that answers everything!