Anonymous asked: Hey, I love your blog! It's a nice escape from the mass amounts of slut-shaming and internalized misogyny in the k-pop fandom :) I was wondering what your thoughts are on Miss A's "I Don't Need A Man", since it's definitely more outwardly feminist than many songs/videos in the k-pop industry.

Thanks a lot, we appreciate the kind words!

Oh, I absolutely love it. I’ve been waiting for the video to come out and I’ve been jamming to it for the past few hours! I adore the styling (the imagery with the shoes/purses/clothes/GENERAL HARD FEMME OPULENCE made me so happy and drove me to look for a crown on Etsy. Oh kpop, stop encouraging my materialistic side!) the song, the lyrics, the message it all rules! It really speaks to my life, especially, over the past few months, since my mantra has been “I PAY MY BILLS, I RUN MY LIFE, TRY AND STEP TO ME, BOYS!” XD. Definitely my latest HBIC anthem!

-Admin Briana

Anonymous asked: Hi Feminoonas! I'm just gonna start off saying I love this blog deeply. Secondly, while I agree with everything you say about slut-shaming and the whole fan-debacle surrounding Hyuna, I still have a problem with her image. Not because I think she's a slut, but because the suggestiveness is a concept created FOR her (not BY her) by a group of men from Cube, for the purposes of drawing in attention from (predominantly male) fans. She owns it, but it still bothers me. Am I wrong in this viewpoint?

Hello, admin Briana over here (I know, shocking!) and funny enough, like freakishly coincidental almost, I just kind of wrote about this today on my personal blog? Link here and here.

I agree with you, but there’s more to it than that. Essentially, the thing is that while it is very valid to be wary and critical of the male gaze, critical of patriarchal norms and dictates, of negative, misogynist, and unrealistic displays of sexuality, and the the media sells women and people consume them, that does not mean we should come at women and tell them they must be “brainwashed” or “exploited” or “adhering to the patriarchy” for the way they express themselves. Yes, I know that Hyuna’s image is largely controlled and dictated by men and is made for male consumption, but I still support her and support  the freedom for women to express themselves how they see fit, and don’t assuming that any woman who is being overtly sexual or raunchy or merely expressing themselves in a way I wouldn’t is automatically doing it for men.

marsjunkiegirl submitted:

I don’t think Koreans’… Korean-ness (heh) make it inherently more okay for them to ‘imitate black culture’ (as you characterized interest in music and dance styles originating with african americans) as compared to a white person making music in the same genre (according to the logic of your posts, you’d be offended by Eminem, but not by, say, Epik High or SPM, because the two latter artists are PoCs). Additionally, I very much understand what’s being stated here, but the entire concept of cultural appropriation is somewhat obsolete. It’s not factual anymore to state that a culture belongs to one group of people. Culture’s been very much globalized, and because of that, one must try hard to draw the lines you guys and others have drawn without really thinking about it (and by thinking about it, I mean ‘considering the fact that we’re all one species that is influenced by all the other members of our species’). I think we can still say “This is not PC or respectful” about some things, but it’s really impractical to go around saying homogenization and integration of other cultures is flat out “morally wrong” and actively try to stop it. I mean, you’re fighting a losing battle. We have the internet now, it’s a little late to tell people to only be inspired by or interested in what’s going on right next door. 

I personally have a big issue with black cultural appropriation in Kpop. I agree that by virtue of them being Korean, people tend to overlook the shitty things that the South Korean entertainment industry does and their blatantly aggravated appropriation and oversimplified portrayals of blackness, but I don’t, and it shouldn’t be that way. Just like how I, as an Afro-Latina, can be and have been guilty of orientalism, anti-blackness and black appropriation is a huge issue in Kpop. They might not be the ultimate benefactors to such a shitty racist system, but they can still engage in problematic bullshit for scraps from the white supremacist table and that’s not cool. I think that last sentence brings up the most important distinction that needs to be made-these shitty views of blackness and the need to separate yourself from blackness is a very white supremacist contrived notion, even if being done by Koreans. So while yes, POC can engage in bullshit, it doesn’t magically make them the oppressors so much as attributing to oppressive systems. Still shitty, but it is wrong to paint them as completely benefiting from or being the creators of a white system.

On the issue of cultural appropriation-First off, I feel the need to state my background a bit so you can get a bit of a perspective as to where I’m coming from. I’m a Midwestern-bred, first generation Dominican pop culture junkie. By nature, my whole identity-culturally, linguistically, socially, personally, racially-is formed and defined by & the result of cultural interaction and yes, even appropriation, both positive and negative.

Being a pop culture fan, I respect and appreciate the globalization of culture and trends and appreciate how people can become more intimately connected to each other by this.

Being a Dominican, my identity is not from one static place. It is a mix of the many cultures (Spanish, African, Arawakan, Chinese, Sephardi, Middle Eastern, etc) and identities of the peoples that came to the island of Hispaniola for one reason or another and contributed to the culture there. I can’t ignore or negate that. In fact, I’m very proud of my mixed heritage and my “throw a dart on a map, I probably have ancestors from there” background. I’ll be talking to my mom during a late Spanish dinner flinging around Arabic and Taino loanwords in an African-derived dialect. That is the reality of my identity.

That said, even while acknowledging the positive (or in the case of colonialism and imperialism, the inevitable rose-in-concrete result of an initial atrocity) of cultural influence, I’m also very acutely aware of the still-negative, still greedy, and still caustic hierarchical state of power and race/cultural relations within the world at large. People who are ignored, stomped on, or underrepresented having their culture or identity jocked by Westerners to their benefit. Foods that are native to a peoples becoming scarce for them because demand for the item has gone up stateside, and of course those people are the ones that are going to be prioritized. Dishes that have been made and cooked for the benefit of millions over thousands of years all the sudden going under attack by the FDA since the methods of preparing the food are not up to code to white standards.

Cultural appropriation and genocide (because when you use words like homogenization, that just means “becoming white”) is still a big aggravated issue. People not having respect for the clothing, culture, and ways of marginalized POC is not an issue that exists in a vacuum but again part of the larger fucked-up schema of white supremacy at large. The desire to want to rock a big feathered headdress comes from the generalizing & exotification of Native peoples, and that happens because they are not seen or respected or heard of in a world that is white supremacist.

Our views of culture, what is “exotic” or “savage” and what is “progressive” and “modern” are totally screwed and white supremacist, too. Even in K-pop I bemoan and totally question the idea that showing progressiveness and culture = “showing how Western, consumerist, and capitalistic you are”! 

So yeah, I am all for sharing and partaking, but I’m not for a mass capitalist, corporatist, western, white takeover of the world. I am for healthy interactions, not for steamrolling over smaller marginalized groups, jockin’ their shit and selling it for white entertainment. There is a difference and even if it can be murky at times, it has to be defined and vocalized and we need to be more adamant about being against negative cultural interactions, not merely shrug our shoulders and be OK with problematic bullshit. 

-Admin Briana

“It’s War.”

So, Angry K-pop Fan got an Ask in concerns with the beginning of MBLAQ’s song “It’s War” containing a snippet of a Malcom X speech, the question being whether or not the usage was appropriate. Angry K-pop Fan, while being bothered by the usage of the quote but not knowing completely how to answer, posed the question for followers to write a response.

So to answer: HELL NO.

From white boys using Nelson Mandela quotes to try to derail people from calling them out for their gross racism, to white middle class socialists twisting a Frederick Douglass speech to make it about (more white-friendly) class oppression when it was actually about anti-United States nationalism and black enslavement, there is a long and offensive history of non-black people taking out of context, twisting, misconstruing, and appropriating racialized black radical language and rage for their own benefit, a privilege black folks themselves are hardly allowed to have, given how often civil rights and radical leaders have been ignored, erased, discredited, murdered, or unjustly thrown to rot in prisons.

In comparison, “It’s War” and MBLAQ’s music in general, is far, far from radical or serious in the least. “It’s War” is another typical k-pop concept with love and guns and the girl perpetually being the object, the possession, the target, the catalyst of male aggression and machismo.* Which OK, not the deepest of subject matter sure, but that’s just fine. It’s fun to listen and dance to, the concept is strong & aesthetically really pleasing, and the MBLAQ boys are fine as hell and are obviously talented performers. That’s what Kpop is all about and they should stick to that**. What brings it to another totally-not-cool level is when there’s such blatant appropriation of a quote of this nature solely for a boy band hit single.

Now, are these quotes and people’s works completely off bounds? Not at all. The thing is, it all depends on the context and the people saying it. POC referring to radical anti-racist efforts have every right to be quoting a radical anti-racists, for example.

There’s even a place for usage in pop music. There is a huge difference between say, a hip hop group like Dead Prez using Malcom X quotes in the beginning of a song, and a pop group like MBLAQ doing so. Dead Prez is are an independent, radical, political, anti-white supremacy/Western hegemony & Imperialism African American hip hop duo who hone & create their own music and MBLAQ is a Korean boy band who merely perform and sing concepts and songs created for them, songs and concepts of the most topical, vapid, and inane nature.

Again, it isn’t that I don’t like fun and mindless pop songs. Obviously, I do. I just know there has to be a level of self-realization, acknowledgement, and respect coming from aesthetics-driven, radio hit-making, chart-topping, trend-focused & driven acts and genres.

If a Western artist of equal frivolity or pop culture status as MBLAQ did this, I’d be just as uncomfortable with it. Though, given Kpop’s track record with horribly disrespecting, exotifiying, and appropriating African American culture, I can’t help but feel even more personally affronted and bothered by it.

-Admin Briana


*Tired, basic, sexist concept much?

**Except for that sexism stuff. That can stop, too.

Anonymous asked: are the admins dating each other?

Yes.

All 4 of us. 

One giant feminist foursome. 

Edit: Admin Briana co-signs the hell outta this

Edit: Admin Genesis double co-signs