I keep on wanting to do something with this blog to re-haul the bullshit and try to actual do something conducive and not overstepping with it, but I feel like, given the name and it’s history and the way it has been recently inactive and the fact that I have no time to moderate another social networking website with the dedication it deserves, it would be best instead to shut it down.

I did not create nor moderate this blog for most of its existence. I came in as a non-Korean WOC fan of Kpop who wanted to be critical of Western racism and orientalism in the fandom and open a discourse about healthy intercultural exchanges that are NOT rife with colorist, racist, tokenizing, anti-Black nonsense, which is unfortunately so common in this fandom. However, this blog, with the symbol and the name and the fact that it was started by a white woman (who was cool about intersectional feminism in fandom but decided to drop off the face of the planet after greatly disrespecting a WOC on this blog, since the accountability process is cool for everyone but herself, which is an unfortunate thing that happens very often with white people in the kpop fandom) is instead a potential hot bed of coming from an entitled place of knowledge about Korean culture and Korean women and Korean feminism, which is not at all what this is about, nor what I ever came here trying to pose as. This isn’t Simon and Martina, this isn’t some cheap Western people “Oh u Azns are SO stupid lol lettuce tell u how to be TRULY empowered in yr pop music”, as a WOC I know that kind of shit is supremacist as fuck and I do not want to engage it, or seem like I am about to.

I am sorry this blog stayed so inactive for so long with no explanation. For now, the blog will stay up, but count it as good as dead, unless I come and specify otherwise. I might, with permission from the bloggers, direct ya’ll to some folks that do this kind of thing and talk about intersectional politics and Asian/Korean culture/Kpop, though I don’t know how much of that I can offer since I am hesitant to direct people to my politically-minded Korean friends since none of them give any shitty fuck about Kpop and it’d be super gross to just have a bunch of fans flooding their inboxes and asking them inane questions about things they have no clue about. However, there are cool Western feminist fans who are pretty legit at checking themselves and trying to keep an open discourse on these subjects, and many of whom which can talk about certain kpop related subjects from a personal point of view (like Kpop and anti-Blackness/fetishizing/tokenizing)

Regardless, thank you for your support throughout the uncertainty and silence, I do appreciate it! Ya’ll have been super cool! <3

Admin Briana

How has K-Pop affected your opinion on fashion or body image?

I saw this thread on reddit the other day, and I’m curious to know other people’s answers. 

You can either answer through reblogging, we have a fancy comment system, or drop it in our ask. Anon is on as always, but if you don’t want me to publish it just let me know and I won’t. 

haegurlhae:

Dear Korea,

Do you want people around the world to respect your music/culture?

Well then stop releasing disgusting videos like this and stop inserting racism in your mainstream media.

Sincerely,

The rest of the world

BLACKFACE IS RACIST

BLACKFACE IS RACIST

BLACKFACE IS RACIST

How loud do we need to shout for this to be understood?!

This shit needs to stop. 

-Anna

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Anonymous asked: www(.)asianjunkie(.)com/2012/02/b-a-p-takes-imitation-a-step-further-wishes-to-be-black/

todiedreaming:

Not too sure why you put this in my box though…. but I will talk about what I think.

http://www.asianjunkie.com/2012/02/b-a-p-takes-imitation-a-step-further-wishes-to-be-black/

Here’s what was in the link:

Trying to emulate a style is soooooooooooooooooooooo last week, the new hotness is wanting to change race.

The six member group — comprised of leader Bang Yong Guk, Zelo, Himchan, Youngjae, Jongup, and Daehyun – sat down with Star News recently to discuss their dreams and goals.

Bang Yong Guk added, “All six of us all hate following what others do. Rather than following someone else, we want to be a team that is followed by others. We practiced day and night before our debut to be noticed as such a group.”

Bang Yong Guk described the versatility of their musical style with, “We are currently a white canvas that any picture can be drawn on.” He continued, “All the members love African-American music filled with soul. If I can be born again, I’d like to be born as an African-American and do music.”

I think a lot of idols tend to fetishize the idea of being black. Because in their mind black people consist of only one type of person: Entertainers. 

I think it comes from of a place of ignorance. At first it is flattering- how much they admire black music and entertainment… until you realize A) they think that is ALL black culture consists of and B) they don’t care much about respecting black people. 

“Fetishization: to see an object completely detached from the mechanisms of its production, especially the economic exploitation involved,” in this case the economic exploitation is the entertainment value, and you detach the humanity and the experience of black people.

In that same vein a lot of international kpop fans fetishize being Asian. 

The problem with this is you negate that race’s entire experience because you are only praising your fragmented and caricature-like view of what it means to be black/Asian. You negate the racial struggles of that entire group, you negate them from existing outside the context, which in this case is vessels for entertainment, you placed them in- you are making them objects.

They are no longer multi-faceted people with vices and virtues of their own accord with a common culture or ethinicity- but they are all one caricature for you to objectify. 

And that shit cray.

I am reblogging from my personal because we on feminoonas had an anon who asked “What if I’m only physically/sexually attracted to men with East Asian features?

It worries me being a part of the kpop fandom when people say these things because there’s a couple of things you have take into account along with the listed reasons above:

Are you sure you are aren’t used attracted to the celebrities and then taking these skewed perceptions of what beauty is and applying it to entire group of people? Not everyone looks like how Idols looks. Entertainment industry is the #1 in taking a body type, certain features and making them the zenith of ultimate beauty- when it is not. Beauty is subjective and no one person, body type should be a prototype for what people “should” look like. Not all Asians look like Taeyang and not all Asians are Korean. 

And in Kpop the idols- especially the women- have to adhere to ridiculous standards in height, weight, and looks. You as a consumer are constantly being fed these fallacious ideals of what people look like…. when you say you “only like Korean or Asians” you are just perpetuating these same harmful beauty standards because you except the Asians that you fetishize to look and behave like that. 

Just some food for thought. 

(via todiedreaming-deactivated201203)

"She’s a flirt" - Baby Soul + Yoo Jia

OK, fandom’s starting all over again with this CAP bullshit.

noonaneomuhomo:

For one, to the “Oppa Didn’t Mean It1!1!” assholes-Now that you see that the upset over CAP’s words was widespread enough for CAP to issue an official statement (lacking as it was), hopefully you’ll shut the hell up about “OMG IT WASN’T BAD OMG IT WAS JUST A JOKE OMG IT IS CULTURE OMG” and see that it was wrong, through and through.

But to the point-

Now that CAP has (somewhat) apologized, Do Not-

  1. Tell people to just get over it-Abuse is very real. Sexism is very real. His words were obviously not cool. People have a right to still be upset and to not take his apology, whether because they still are hurt by what was said or don’t think it to be real or sincere. That is their right. Do not police their reaction or feelings on the matter.
  2. Tell people to support Teen Top unconditionally-“The most important thing is to support Teen Top!”, “Well now we can do what matters and support the boys!”. That language is shitty. It shows that your number one priority is Teen Top and you have no care whatsoever by the harmful thing that was said or the people it hurt. Most importantly, don’t push that mentality on others. They have ever right to choose to not support Teen Top after this incident, no matter if you in your mind didn’t think it was a big enough deal.
  3. Make it all about CAP & Teen Top-“OMG, I’m so glad he said this, maybe fans will stop attacking and criticizing him!” “Yay, I hope him and Teen Top haven’t been too hurt by this drama!” This. Is. Not. About. CAP. Or. The. Group. It is about the problematic nature of his words and the people it hurt. They are who matters, not him. The other members of Teen Top are unfortunate casualties of his words & given how they reacted to CAP’s words themselves, they are getting brought down by stuff they don’t think is cool, but it still isn’t about them.
  4. STILL make excuses for CAP and what was said-“See, I told you he wasn’t a bad guy!”, “Judge the words, not the person!” “His intentions were good, he just made a bad joke!”. Those are really terrible ways to belittle the harm of what was said, shift away responsibility from CAP for his words, dismiss how people feel, and to police how they should react to what was said. Stop doing that.
  5. Canonize CAP as a living saint for apologizing-Apologizing for being wrong does not deserve medals or awards. It is required, the bare minimum, the least you can do. He isn’t some phenomenal or otherworldly human being for doing exactly what he should, which is take responsibility for his shitty words.

I repeat, you MUST understand-

  1. Regardless if you choose to continue to support Teen Top or not, it is without a doubt that what CAP said was wrong and fucked up, and fans have a right to be upset.-‘Nuff said.

If you’ve been engaging in some bullshit apologism for his words & domestic abuse and sexism, you’d do well to issue an apology of your own.

"It’s War."

So, Angry K-pop Fan got an Ask in concerns with the beginning of MBLAQ’s song “It’s War” containing a snippet of a Malcom X speech, the question being whether or not the usage was appropriate. Angry K-pop Fan, while being bothered by the usage of the quote but not knowing completely how to answer, posed the question for followers to write a response.

So to answer: HELL NO.

From white boys using Nelson Mandela quotes to try to derail people from calling them out for their gross racism, to white middle class socialists twisting a Frederick Douglass speech to make it about (more white-friendly) class oppression when it was actually about anti-United States nationalism and black enslavement, there is a long and offensive history of non-black people taking out of context, twisting, misconstruing, and appropriating racialized black radical language and rage for their own benefit, a privilege black folks themselves are hardly allowed to have, given how often civil rights and radical leaders have been ignored, erased, discredited, murdered, or unjustly thrown to rot in prisons.

In comparison, “It’s War” and MBLAQ’s music in general, is far, far from radical or serious in the least. “It’s War” is another typical k-pop concept with love and guns and the girl perpetually being the object, the possession, the target, the catalyst of male aggression and machismo.* Which OK, not the deepest of subject matter sure, but that’s just fine. It’s fun to listen and dance to, the concept is strong & aesthetically really pleasing, and the MBLAQ boys are fine as hell and are obviously talented performers. That’s what Kpop is all about and they should stick to that**. What brings it to another totally-not-cool level is when there’s such blatant appropriation of a quote of this nature solely for a boy band hit single.

Now, are these quotes and people’s works completely off bounds? Not at all. The thing is, it all depends on the context and the people saying it. POC referring to radical anti-racist efforts have every right to be quoting a radical anti-racists, for example.

There’s even a place for usage in pop music. There is a huge difference between say, a hip hop group like Dead Prez using Malcom X quotes in the beginning of a song, and a pop group like MBLAQ doing so. Dead Prez is are an independent, radical, political, anti-white supremacy/Western hegemony & Imperialism African American hip hop duo who hone & create their own music and MBLAQ is a Korean boy band who merely perform and sing concepts and songs created for them, songs and concepts of the most topical, vapid, and inane nature.

Again, it isn’t that I don’t like fun and mindless pop songs. Obviously, I do. I just know there has to be a level of self-realization, acknowledgement, and respect coming from aesthetics-driven, radio hit-making, chart-topping, trend-focused & driven acts and genres.

If a Western artist of equal frivolity or pop culture status as MBLAQ did this, I’d be just as uncomfortable with it. Though, given Kpop’s track record with horribly disrespecting, exotifiying, and appropriating African American culture, I can’t help but feel even more personally affronted and bothered by it.

-Admin Briana


*Tired, basic, sexist concept much?

**Except for that sexism stuff. That can stop, too.

Introductions continued!

Genesis’ post seems like a good idea, so here goes my own!

Hola! I’m Briana, another new admin at this fine blogging establishment. 21 years old, queer, first generation stank-eyed Dominican living in the quaint and mysterious (!?!?) Midwest. Seasoned rabble-rouser and activist, burgeoning body-mod aficionado, and baby K-pop fan. I like my humor much like I like my souls, black as the pits of hell that bore them, but believe me when I say, oppa & unnir meant it and I am very ready to be part of the discussions & conversations breakin’ down the who, what, where, why, and how. Feel free to join in or take several of those seats Genesis was referring to and learn a thing or two.

That “take-charge” seriousness aside, my desire is that we can spend more time having positive conversations at the intersections of Western K-pop fandom and womanist/feminist/queer/social issues. I hope to get to learn new things & gain some perspective myself and, as always, enjoy some great and, let’s face it, eternally wacky, kpop culture & fandom while I’m at it.

P.S.-My hashtag skills are on point. You have been warned.

Trigger warning: child abuse and domestic violence.

By now, many people are aware of Teen Top’s C.A.P’s comments on Mnet Wide Open Studio. If not, here’s a post that summarizes the situation (with bonus screencaps!)

Basically, CAP says that he’ll buy a son whatever he wants and… “if it’s a girl, [he’ll] hit her and drag her home.” 

Oh. 

Everyone else in the studio, including his fellow Teen Top members are pretty shocked by this statement and ask why; CAP explains, saying “Because it’s dangerous for her outside!”

Goodcool, the writer of the post previously linked to, writes that:

Niel then proceeds to ask him “so you’ll hit her at home?" and Chunji adds "there’s even more dangerous" (I’m going to assume this is a typo by the translators and "there’s" is meant to be "that’s").

CAP then answers “to make her obedient" and this ends his portion of the discussion.

So, this isn’t about protection at all. His words make it very evident that CAP prioritizes and values men over women, and that he thinks child abuse is an acceptable approach to parenting. This attitude isn’t uncommon all over the world. We don’t exist in a vacuum, after all, and patriarchal structures are firmly in place all throughout a variety of societies. 

Domestic violence is not a joke. Long-term consequences of child-abuse include (but are not limited to:)

  • Poor mental and emotional health. In one long-term study, as many as 80 percent of young adults who had been abused met the diagnostic criteria for at least one psychiatric disorder at age 21. These young adults exhibited many problems, including depression, anxiety, eating disorders, and suicide attempts. (Other common psychological and emotional conditions associated with abuse are Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder and Reactive Attachment Disorder.)
  • Social difficulties. Children who experience rejection or neglect are more likely to develop antisocial traits as they grow up.
  • Impaired brain development. Child abuse and neglect have been shown, in some cases, to cause important regions of the brain to fail to form or grow properly, resulting in impaired development.
  • Poor physical health. Several studies have shown a relationship between various forms of household dysfunction (including childhood abuse) and poor health. Adults who experienced abuse or neglect during childhood are more likely to suffer from physical ailments such as allergies, arthritis, asthma, bronchitis, high blood pressure, and ulcers.

This is hardly an exhaustive list; the negative consequences on the life of a survivor of domestic violence are innumerable. If you’re thinking “well yeah, of course beating your children is awful, but hitting them every once in awhile is okay,” studies have shown that children who are spanked tend to have lower IQs. While it would be ridiculous to say that spanking alone determines intelligence, research has shown that it is a factor. 

And let’s go back to what CAP said - that he would hit his daughter to make her obedient. This is what misogyny sounds like. It is the pervasive idea that women cannot and should not be independent people in their own right but rather submissive and passive to male figures; that men are the (unquestioned) authority and women exist to fulfill their desires and commands. That is simply unacceptable. When contrasted with his attitude towards his hypothetical male offspring, it is impossible to not see a stark double standard at play.

So please, before you start shouting “oppa didn’t mean it” or “it was just a joke”, please consider what he said and the larger ramifications of his statements.